![]() In the VAB they tend to align edge to edge if you put the cursor right on the edge making assembly fairly easy when making a big flat surface. "Space" resets all the placement rotations to the initial default. ![]() The "R" especially seems to not cycle through all nodes on the part, but only toggles between two nodes (the plates have at least 9 attachment nodes, 10 if the center nodes on the two sides are separate guessing). What I know how to do: "R" to select a different node, "W/A/S/D/Q/E" to rotate while placing (but not after placing), and the mouse for "translation" while placing (but not after placing). I wish KIS could rotate/translate objects without being in "place" mode. Maybe if they both, or even one of them, flushed all changes to disk and only read from disk? I don't know. Probably the two approaches use different ways to store the part's new position and orientation, or one or both are caching that info and not referring to the same savefile based data. The offsetting done via stock really seem to confuse KIS if I revisit the same part later with KIS. But, as usual, when I combine stock and KIS construction on the same objects, something derails eventually and something like the kraken's less violent cousin comes to visit. ![]() So I tried placing them with KIS then rotating/offsetting them into place using stock. Stock construction doesn't like to handle objects with other objects attached and all my plates had a surface light on them placed in the VAB. Which wouldn't be a problem if KIS had a way to offset and rotate once placed. But once on the Mun and using KIS they simply won't align edge to edge and only seem to want to attach to the large flat surfaces. Has anyone had any luck using KIS to construct on the surface using the structural plates? In the VAB they tend to align edge to edge if you put the cursor right on the edge making assembly fairly easy when making a big flat surface. Obviously the Cargo Part MM patch isn't enough for it to be used in Stock Construction, but what does make it usable in Stock Construction? I didn't see a module that would seem to be involved when digging around I wonder what it is about an item that allows it to be a Cargo Part, but doesn't allow Stock Construction to do anything with it. Thanks for taking time to think about this though, and I wish I'd thought to try that I've already reverted to a previous save and relaunched with things reorganized. Also not sure that all items have the "deploy" arrow from personal inventory. I don't think deployable items will deploy unless landed. I'll try that next time it comes up, if it comes up, but I have a feeling that it won't work for orbital construction. Have you tried moving them to the personal stock inventory of a kerbal from the stock container and then using the arrow for deployed science while on EVA to move from personal stock inventory to the ground? Then grab them using KIS.
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